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fireTEK Pyromusical with a SINGLE Field Module and Android Device

Torch

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One of the reasons I purchased fireTEK was for all the redundant options to setup and control a show.

Here is a demo of a basic approach to getting started with the system without a remote or extra audio equipment, yet still being able to control a scripted pyromusical with just one basic field module set to Master, an Android device, and some inexpensive cables.

Although this demos a small script, if you were in a multi-module show situation where a wireless Remote was damaged you could still continue the show with this approach. The Master Module in this setup can create a wireless network with up to 98 other modules and the whole network can be controlled with the Android device and the included FTKontrol application.

I'd appreciate any feedback or questions.

 
@FrankBroughton "Hmmm" you say. If you've perused other videos on my channel, you will see, as a hobbyist, I'm a big supporter of fireTEK and have spent some time trying to get the word out on this system (My full time professional job is in systems and controls). I've also had the fun opportunity to helped out at some of the trade shows at PGI.

I realize "those admins" haven't pinned down strict forum rules on posting prices and advertising etc. but I'm still going to refrain from any specific price comparisons with other system. There are a lot of good systems out there and many of us have preferences. For me, I think I think fireTEK has some really great features. I do encourage people to do some research on their own. And if your curious about fireTEK, there are a lot of organised fireTEK playlists on my humble little you tube channel (I'll warn you, I try to be more instructional than entertaining so you might wan't some caffeine).

Cost per cue does not always have a simple answer. The short answer is it compares very well with other systems. And then I might add it provides a lot of cool features and options that you might not find elsewhere.

However, this wouldn't be a discussion forum with short answers, so I apologize this is a bit longer than probably expected, but there is some good information.

I figure there are three categories when talking about cost/cue and I did a little research and comparison for all three categories when I was looking at systems:

1) Beginning Hobbyist/"Backyarder" with 32-48 cues,
2) Serious Hobbyist/"Backyarder"/Small Company (128-144 cues, and probably bigger in some cases)
3) Large Company - or out of control hobbyist (which there are plenty of) :cool:

There are also various options: TC, GPS, 2-wire, Audio, Cases, etc. There are also various sales and discounts at times, but I’ll just stick with the "base trim package" at current list prices. I will also assume the criteria is scripting and audio control for a pyromusical - if even a small one.

We'll just get into Category 1 for now, but the cost/cue only gets better as you add more modules.

If someone was looking for a bare bones setup to get started that could be scripted and fired by a computer or Android Device, either to music - like I have shown in this video, it’s one base FTH-48Fx module. That lists a $699 or ~$14.50/cue with included internal lipo battery, charger, rails, SW for computer and Android (assuming the shooter has a PC computer or Android device). That gives someone control of a 48-cue show. With all the cables it's probably just over $15/cue (USB cables, OTG Cable, RJ45 Extender).

I think it is still an additional $50 for the Time Code option and you could control the FTH-48Fx field module by TC from just about anything that plays music (I did a video showing how to control the script via TC and also provide Audio with a small MP3 player).

You could also manually fire the field module with the USB setup shown in the video but connected to a computer.

Eventually we all want the convenience of a handheld remote or or similar compact controller which starts at ~$399 for a base FTM-99Sx handheld remote. With a Computer or Android device attached to the remote you have audio control from the firing position (My remote has the extra option of an internal hard drive and USB reader with internal Audio Player - my remote can provide stand-alone audio control without any other equipment). So if someone starts with a one base FTH-48Fx module and base FTM-99Sx remote, that is ~$22.90/cue. I don't think there are many comparable systems out there at this price range that get you 48 scriptable cues and audio with a remote. And of course you can expand the year after year (even the older discontinued FTH-48E modules I have are fully 2-way functional with the current devices).

Besides the cost per cue, the flexibility of the system provides some additional options for your setup. You can use a slaved remote or even a slaved field module connected to an Android Device as a dedicated "AudioBox." You can add external batteries or plug the charger in on the fly if the internal battery is low and still fire. Any remote or field module can be set up as The Master to establish the wireless network and control a scripted show. And the base field modules can be used as a pre-programmed sequencer for any other system (On that point a FTH-48Fx field module could be added as 48-cue sequencer and with an Android device connected provide audio to even a cheap e-bay system). I also have had fun tinkering with the various other options that have been available for the past years: TC, GPS, DMX, 2-wire, etc.

Sorry if that was winded. Like I said, I'm a big supporter of fireTEK and like the discussion.
 
Another great thing Torch left out...

If you have any sort of tablet or pc, fireTEK has its own sort of "Control Panel" that comes FREE of charge. Also, if you don't have the money to fork out for Finale, the fireTEK firing system also comes with its own sort of scripting software but it also is compatible with Pyro Ignition Control (from henceforth referred to as PIC).

Does PIC have its challenges? What scripting software doesn't? I always have an order to how I script... I get the audio track down first, then make an "outline" of what I want to do, after which I then get precise timing (yes, its as tedious as you think), in which I finally get to start laying down cues into PIC. The beauty of PIC is you can also "perform" the show within the software. I have an "android" tablet loaded with Windows 10 that I have as a backup for IF my remote were to go down... it hasn't happened but as a pyro, we all know how important backups are!

All-in-all fireTEK is a GREAT system for anyone wanting to get into the world of e-firing! I won my first module from a contest and it has ALL the bells and whistles. If you decide to get your 1st module I would recommend getting the antennae and bluetooth options as I haven't used the TC nor the DMX at all yet. The external trigger can come in VERY handy, and if you only get a single module, you might want to invest in a few batteries and some sort of connecter, so you have the possibility of external charging out in the field. This way you can do a pyromusical using a single module, firing from 3 positions.

I could talk more but I don't think you would want to hear about it... LOL
 
@PyroCurtis you are quite the lucky duck - winning a fireTEK module. I'm putting two and two together. I believe I've watched some of your shows on YouTube a few times; e.g, (Thunder over the Plains 2018 posted by Firecat8- nice job).

..., and if you only get a single module, you might want to invest in a few batteries and some sort of connecter, so you have the possibility of external charging out in the field. This way you can do a pyromusical using a single module, firing from 3 positions.

I could talk more but I don't think you would want to hear about it... LOL

I was curious about your comment on external batteries for firing in multiple positions.

In the simple video above from my first post on this thread, there are three positions - two fire in parallel on cue 1 on the internal battery. I wouldn't have been concerned with firing all three, either. Additional, based on my testing, I've popped 2 MGJ Initiators in series simultaneously across 3 rails in parallel with 100ft cable to each rail, for a total of 6 - all on the internal battery (photo attached).

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My first show was with the 48E modules in the white cases that require an external battery. I used 12V SLAs and had no problem firing across three positions, with the left and right out 100ft in each direction.

So I don't think one would have problems with a pyromusical across multiple positions with a FTH-48Fx module and internal battery, but they should pop a few matches to test their setup and cables.

With all of that said, I tend to be conservative and don't disagree it wouldn't hurt to add external batteries. I typically include external Lipo battery packs I made for another 24V - shown here at 24.8V on the screen (The battery icon is the state of the internal battery and to the right is the voltage for the external source)

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I try to keep one or two of my external packs available, too -just in case Murphy shows up. If I have a 48Fx module that has a low battery, without shutting anything down, I can just plug in the external battery back. There is no need to power cycle the module or set the module to a different voltage setting. It's dual path, so it automatically recognizes anything from 12V to 30V on the external source. If you had to you could also plug in the charger and keep going.
 
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